University of Wisconsin-Madison Search (Chinese History since 1911)[]
Comments moved from Front Page (1/29/12):
- I don't get it... looking at their website it seems like they have pretty good coverage of China. They have a 20th century historian already it seems, unless that person is leaving, and I thought they hired a Qing historian this past year, and they have a Ming historian. Does anyone know why they are looking for a fourth China historian? But maybe my information is wrong or I'm missing something.
- They got a large grant to expand their coverage of Asia/China.
- The 20th C historian was actually hired as the 'Asian diasporas' person, so not a China job per se. Which means that Madison is fast going from not very much to quite a lot in Chinese history. No Qing historians there afaik.
- "Madison is fast going from not very much to quite a lot in Chinese history.." I'm sure you don't mean to overlook their two esteemed retired professors of Chinese history...Chow Tse-Tung and Lin Yusheng...giants in the field.
- Giants? Second tallest dwarves.
- Re: "dwarves" comment above..." So you have read both scholars' extensive Chinese-language scholarship and are able to critically analyze both scholars' contributions? Can you tell me, for example, where Dr. Lin is now and what projects he is engaged in?
- [29 Jan.] Is the discussion here really pertinent to the job posting? If you've got complaints about hiring practices/disicplines/whatever there's always the venting page or Universities to Fear AFII 17:36, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Re: aggressive questions about Dr. Lin. I agree. Your posting is totally inappropriate. Take that garbage to another site. Let the dead bury the dead.
- Let me clarify: The "garbage" is the rude, immature, and disrespectful claim of calling Drs. Chow and Lin "dwarves." Dr. Lin is alive and well and continues to be a productive esteemed scholar. Apparently the poster of the "dwarves" comment is unaware of Drs. Chow and Lin's extensive Chinese-language scholarship.
- Some common sense here people! Chow and Lin were / are decent people. It was crazy of Tengteng to call them "giants," but everyone on here knows that, and there's no need to point it out. As for ther person posting as Maurice Meisner, you are sick, demented, and vulgar. Have some respect for the dead.
- "...everyone on here knows that..." This is your opinion/assumption, which of course you are entitled to, however, it is not trivial that Dr. Lin is one of 61 Academicians elected to Academia Sinica in Taiwan for Humanities and SS http://db1n.sinica.edu.tw/textdb/academicians/02.php?func=22&_op=?ID:H038. Do not assume you know everything about these scholars from their time at UWisc or Engl lang publications.
- Yes I can see you dont care. I wish you luck on this job market.
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Question from an Undergraduate[]
Hello,
I am an undergraduate student studying history, and I am thinking about getting a PHD in Japanese history. However, a history professor I know warned me that this was a bad choice. He said that there are too few jobs for history professors. Furthermore, he said that universities will often hire professors on a part-time basis to reduce costs. Is this true?
Therefore, I was surprised to see so many tenure-track job postings on academic wikia. Are all of these postings legitimate? I know that in many online forums anyone can post false information, so I was a bit concerned.
- A: I'm not a historian, but work in another academic field in the Humanities and am one of the administrators of this wiki. You are smart to be asking questions before committing to graduate study in this field. I am sure those who work in this specific sub-field of history can give you more informed answers, but my sense is that your history professor is giving you an accurate and fair warning that you should take seriously. It is my understanding that history as a field is particularly overcrowded with many more PhDs out there than available positions. I can assure you that all the jobs posted here are legitimate (you should note that almost all of them are linked to H-Net, one of the main venues for advertising academic positions in history). However, I think you need to understand that there are, I believe, several hundred PhDs competing for each of these jobs. So while it may look like there are a lot of jobs, you also have to consider that there is an intense level of competition for each one. Una74 16:52, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
- Seconded. If you cannot imagine doing something *other* than a PhD, than you can give it shot. But only go if you are fully funded, and at a top school.
privacy and regulation[]
30 May: NB I have temporarily locked this page so that new and unregistered users cannot edit the page - this is to do with the repeated deletion of information from one of the adverts. The information deleted is in the public sphere and does not break wiki's terms and conditions, so it is not clear why (or if) it should be deleted.AFII (talk) 07:41, May 30, 2014 (UTC)
10 July 2014 NB I have locked this page again. Ongoing edit wars about personal information are not helpful, nor is it acceptable repost personal information after an extensive discussion about the wiki rules. AFII (talk) 08:58, July 10, 2014 (UTC)
Let us read those two public annoucements. One is made after I deleted my personal information. BTW: I am the only person whose privacy got grossly exposed on this webpage. So the page was blocked in order to prevent me from protecting my privacy.
The second is after I post Chinese response in order to straighten things up. Now the page is blocked again and my post was deleted. The first time, the editor was not happy with my deletion. He reposted it. This time, he is afraid of my post! and deleted it!
Amazing. This can be a great case study on American Asian Historians. The censorship is even better than the Chinese government.
你能block多久呢？ 我写篇文章，让中国人民认识一些这些美国学者censorship的风采？ 这个夏天，我有的是时间。别以为你们一定具有掌控信息的权利。别人也有说话的权利。Sure. This webiste is difficult to manage especially in this field. 为什么呢？ 因为Asian Studies的学者素质高啊！
10 July:
Hi there.
I am sorry you are still angry about the edits on the Asian History page. You are not the only person using that page, and the locks and edits are not aimed at you personally, but are an attempt to draw a line under the issue and prevent an endless, and unhelpful, edit war (this includes preventing people *adding* your information back to the page).
It seems you are under a misapprehension about what's happening, and who is doing the edits; I (AFII) do not know you, and I am not an Asian Historian myself (nor am I a man!) - I have no connection to the field at all. All I have been doing is moderating the Asian History pages in exactly the same manner as every other History page on this wiki, and to the best of my ability within the T&C of the wiki itself.
The policy of the wiki has been made clear, pages have been protected from editing to prevent an ongoing edit war, and you have had multiple apologies from multiple administrators. Further edits are not helpful (I'm afraid i cannot read chinese, so those are especially wasted on me!). Please accept the apology, the removal of your personal information, and let the matter rest.