North American History - U.S. & Canada

Our Numbers?
Out of curiosity - how many people have we got active on this thing? Change the number below if you're here: 26 (Moved from the bottom of the page. This is just an imperfect measure of our numbers and perhaps overall accuracy . . .) Although - now obsessively checking TWO webpages instead of one!

African American History

 * CUNY - Hunter College
 * Location: New York, NY
 * application deadline is 1 Oct 2008
 * received ack 10/10/2008


 * Carnegie Mellon
 * Location: Pittsburgh, PA
 * application deadline is December 1, 2008


 * Florida Atlantic University
 * Location: Boca Raton, Florida
 * application deadline is 1 Nov 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $62,600
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $52,663 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 18:1
 * median SAT score: 1015 to 1020


 * Phone interviews scheduled - they say they will bring finalists on campus before AHA
 * Invitation for campus interview 11/23


 * George Washington University
 * Location: Washington, D.C.
 * application deadline is December 1, 2008


 * Hobart & William Smith Colleges Geneva, NY
 * ack letter:"will be reviewing applications at least until November 23"


 * Indiana University - Bloomington
 * application deadline is 15 Oct 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $68,400
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $57,524 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 18:1
 * median SAT score: 1145 to 1165


 * Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
 * application deadline is 15 December 2008


 * Texas Tech University
 * Location: Lubbock, Texas
 * application deadline is 14 Nov 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $60,900
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $51,217 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 18:1
 * median SAT score: 1085 to 1090


 * received request for more writing 11/21
 * that number of $51,000 is almost 10% higher than my sources tell me. Where did you get that number?


 * University of Massachusetts - Amherst
 * application deadline is 10 Oct 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $66,800
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $56,179 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 17:1
 * median SAT score: 1135
 * called department on 11/10, department administrator said Af Am search is canceled
 * Do you know if this includes both the Civil Rights Movement position and the Social Theory and Historiography position?


 * the civil rights search has been canceled because of budget cuts (11/15)
 * received letter from search chair confirming search cancellation (11/21)


 * University of Missouri - Columbia
 * application deadline is 1 Nov 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $58,200
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $48,946 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 17:1
 * median SAT score: 1165 to 1185


 * University of Oregon
 * Location: Eugene, Oregon
 * application deadline is 31 Oct 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $61,900
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $52,058 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 18:1
 * median SAT score: 1105


 * Tufts University
 * Location: Medford, Massachusetts
 * application deadline is November 1, 2008
 * received e-mail ack (11/05)


 * University of Wyoming
 * application deadline is 1 Oct 2008


 * Washington University - St. Louis
 * application deadline is 1 Oct 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $80,000
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $72,560 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 7:1
 * median SAT score: 1405 to 1450
 * received request for writing sample (10/20)
 * received request for more writing samples (11/05)
 * received request for more writing samples (11/17)


 * Wesleyan University
 * application deadline is Nov. 15
 * joint appointment with African American Studies
 * This looks like it might be an inside hire situation. Does anyone have any info on this?
 * Apparently, there is a hiring freeze here - anybody hear about that?
 * (11/21)To clarify, on the Wesleyan Administration website, under FAQ, there is a question about "hiring freezes." The response is: "We are reviewing all positions currently open, and determining which need to be filled immediately, and which can be put on hold for the time being."  A quick call to AAS confirmed that the hiring freeze will not affect this search.
 * Remember that Af-Am is conducing this search, not history. I received an e-mail from the admin today (in response to a call from me) that my application is complete. She didn't say anything about a freeze. (11/21)


 * West Virginia University
 * Application deadline is Nov. 15

Asian American History

 * University of California, Los Angeles
 * application deadline is 10 Oct 2008


 * University of Chicago
 * application deadline is 1 Oct 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $90,700
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $82,265 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 6:1
 * median SAT score: 1360 to 1430

requested eoc/aa via email (10/17)


 * Wesleyan University
 * Location: Middletown, Connecticut
 * application deadline is 1 Oct 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $68,400
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $62,039 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 9:1
 * median SAT score: 1315 to 1395
 * Here's a quick heads up from the search committee chair: This is not a job in a history department, although we need someone who can work historically. Although it is not impossible that we would hire a candidate with a Ph.D. in history for this position, because of the mandate that we appoint jointly with English, you will need to be an interdisciplinary scholar who is a plausible candidate in literary studies. Hence it is far more likely that finalists for the position will have a degree in American Studies, Ethnic Studies, Comp Lit, or English. You are invited to contact me (cpotter01@wesleyan.edu) -- I am the search co-chair, and Director of American Studies -- if you are a historian and want some guidance. Best, Claire Potter, Professor of History and American Studies, Wesleyan University.
 * two points to Wesleyan for directness and information! way to embrace the wiki! (though Dr. Potter, some of us with history Ph.D.s actually DO cultural/lit work, so please read our cover letters and don't dismiss us out of hand!)

Chicano/Latino History

 * Case Western Reserve University
 * application deadline is 11 Nov 2008


 * Texas A&M University - College Station
 * application deadline is 7 Nov 2008
 * student/faculty ratio - 19:1
 * median SAT score: 1165 to 1190


 * The University of Texas at San Antonio
 * application deadline is 17 Oct 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $67,000
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $56,347 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 24:1
 * median SAT score: 975 to 1010

Native American History

 * University of Utah
 * Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
 * application deadline is 7 Nov 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $68,700
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $57,777 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 13:1
 * median SAT score: 1105 to 1120


 * University of Massachusetts, Boston
 * application deadline is 1 Dec 2008
 * Posting

U.S. and World

 * let's fill in these jobs as they come due?


 * "'Bucknell University U.S. in the world, 1945-present'"
 * deadline: November 3
 * anyone know if this is an inside hire? (11/22)


 * "'The College of New Jersey, U.S. in a World Context'"
 * deadline: November 15, 2008
 * e-mail ack (14 November)


 * "Ohio University, U.S. in the World since WWI"
 * deadline: November 15, 2008


 * "University of Illinois-Chicago, U.S. in the World"
 * deadline: November 17, 2008
 * Search is likely to be suspended (11/7)
 * Search officially cancelled, letters will go out shortly (11/20)


 * "University of Maryland-Baltimore County, U.S. in the Modern World"
 * deadline: November 15, 2008


 * Received ack 11/07


 * "University of Sheffield, America and the Wider World"
 * no deadline given


 * "University of Tulsa, U.S. Relations with the Wider World"
 * deadline: November 1, 2008


 * "University of Washington-Seattle, U.S. in the World"
 * deadline: app. review begins November 14, 2008


 * asked for writing samples, 10/30
 * asked for writing samples, 10/17
 * they will interview at AHA, and invite finalists to campus in Feb. or March
 * Has anyone not been asked for writing samples? I think they are requesting this from all the applicants.
 * What makes you think that?
 * Because it was part of my ack letter and because they have asked several people for writing samples before the due date - just assumed that. I hope I'm wrong.
 * I received a snail mail letter acknowledgment and a separate email request for writing several days later... hope for both of us your hunch is wrong.


 * "Vanderbilt University, U.S. and the World (open rank search)"
 * deadline: November 3, 2008
 * rcd. ack (5 nov.)
 * request extra material (11/19)


 * Wake Forest University, U.S. as a World Power since 1898
 * deadline: November 1, 2008
 * any news about this position and timeframe? will they interview at AHA?
 * several colleagues have applied for europe jobs at WF in the past 3-years. they never received acknowledgments, or even rejection letters after the aha. WF also has a vap who conforms somewhat closely to the ad, which makes me think (pure speculation) that we will not be hearing from them.
 * Received ack letter - indicates they will interview at AHA. 11/24


 * "Yale University, U.S. and the World"
 * deadline: November 25, 2008
 * received ack and diversity postcard (11/17)

U.S. History

 * Colgate University
 * application deadline is 14 Nov 2008
 * Does anyone know what this Colgate job is? Where was it listed?
 * It's on H-net, and elsewhere. Broad description "North American"


 * Drury University
 * Location: Springfield, Missouri
 * application deadline is 14 Nov 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $48,400
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $43,904 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 13:1
 * median SAT score: 1130 to 1160


 * East Carolina University
 * application deadline is 15 Oct 2008
 * received ack via mail 20 Oct 2008


 * Loyola University Chicago
 * application deadline is 15 Sept 2008
 * requested AHA interview, 11/10


 * Northampton Community College
 * Location: Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
 * application deadline is 12 Sept 2008
 * student/faculty ratio - 22:1
 * link doesn't work; does anyone know the status of this one?


 * Rutgers University - Camden
 * application deadline is 24 Oct 2008


 * Texas A&M University - Corpus Christi
 * application deadline is 7 Nov 2008


 * University of California in San Diego - La Jolla
 * application deadline is 29 Oct 2008
 * request for writing samples 11/14


 * Wake Forest University
 * Location: Winston-Salem, North Carolina
 * application deadline is 1 Nov 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $57,900
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $52,522 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 10:1
 * median SAT score: 1295 to 1325

U.S. Colonial

 * Bloomsburg University of Pennsylvania
 * application deadline is 1 Dec 2008


 * Boston College
 * application deadline is 14 November 2008
 * Could someone please post the link? I haven't seen this ad anywhere.
 * http://www.h-net.org/jobs/display_job.php?jobID=37123


 * Princeton University
 * application deadline is 13 Oct 2008
 * Writing sample requested 24 October 2008
 * Interviews scheduled


 * Southeastern Louisiana University
 * application deadline is 1 Nov 2008


 * Syracuse University
 * application deadline is 15 Oct 2008
 * They did this search last year for an advanced assistant or associate professor. Anyone know why the search failed?
 * e-mail acknowledgment received, 10-16


 * University of Alberta
 * application deadline is 15 Oct 2008


 * University of Iowa
 * application deadline is 1 Oct 2008


 * University of Victoria
 * application deadline is 30 Sept 2008


 * University of Virginia
 * application deadline is 15 Nov 2008
 * rumor is that this search will be cancelled

yes, UVA searches are cancelled
 * According to the other wiki, someone called the department and was told that this search is still on (only the 19th-century search got canceled).


 * University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
 * colonial, revolutionary, Atlantic world
 * application deadline is 11-1 (online application)
 * received request for additional materials 11-14


 * Wellesley College
 * application deadline is 7 November 2008

U.S. Revolutionary/Early Republic

 * Auburn University
 * TWO Assistant Professors in US History, 1800-1850 (at least 1/2 in Old South)
 * application deadline November 1, 2008


 * Berea College
 * pre-1865 (preferred subfields in Gender, Latin American, or Appalachian)
 * application deadline November 1.


 * Bloomsburg University of Pennsylvania
 * application deadline is 1 Dec 2008


 * Princeton University
 * application deadline is 13 Oct 2008


 * Southeastern Louisiana University
 * application deadline is 1 Nov 2008


 * University of Alberta
 * application deadline is 15 Oct 2008


 * University of Massachusetts - Amherst
 * application deadline is 3 Nov 2008


 * called Wednesday and asked if a hiring freeze in place. Departmental assistant said no and they are conducting a job search despite chancellor's announcement(10/22)**
 * received snail mail notice from SC that the early national search is canceled due to budget conditions, 20 November 2008.
 * University of Victoria
 * application deadline is 30 Sept 2008


 * Wofford College (colonial through early republic)
 * application deadline is October 1.
 * quick, friendly response from search chair after submitting c.v. and cover letter online.(9-19)

U.S. Nineteenth Century

 * Brandeis University
 * application deadline is 15 Oct 2008
 * received ack via email and note that the committee will be interviewing at the AHA
 * AHA page notes search suspended
 * does anyone know why? (10/9)
 * "a result of the current economic crisis"--email notification of suspended search.
 * called today, the Academic Administrator confirmed that this is suspended. (10/14)
 * they state that the search will not be conducted for at least this academic year.
 * This (and possibly the 20th century position listed below) is Jacqueline Jones's old position; she went to UT Austin.


 * Brigham Young University
 * Location: Provo, Utah
 * application deadline is 15 Sept 2008
 * student/faculty ratio - 21:1
 * median SAT score: 1235 to 1240


 * New York University
 * application deadline is 30 Nov 2008


 * Rutgers University-Newark
 * application deadline is 1 Nov 2008


 * writing sample requested 11/14


 * Salisbury University


 * Location: Salisbury, Maryland
 * application deadline is 15 Nov 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $60,200
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $50,628 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 18:1
 * median SAT score: 1035 to 1115
 * email notice - search canceled 11/10 x2 Note was much nicer than the one I received from Brandeis.


 * Southeastern Louisiana University
 * application deadline is 1 Nov 2008


 * Trinity College
 * application deadline is unknown
 * was told search committee will begin to look at applications in mid-late September
 * received ack via email
 * committee review of applications will begin on or around Nov. 15
 * other webiste indicates AHA interview scheduled.


 * University of Alberta
 * application deadline is 15 Oct 2008


 * University of Colorado - Boulder
 * application deadline is 1 Dec 2008


 * University of Massachusetts - Amherst
 * UMass chancellor announced hiring freeze 10/18 due to economic situation**
 * called Wednesday and asked if a hiring freeze in place. Departmental assistant said no and they are conducting a job search despite chancellor's announcement(10/22)**
 * application deadline is 3 Nov 2008


 * Weber State University
 * application deadline is 1 Nov 2008


 * Wesleyan University
 * application deadline is 15 Nov 2008
 * Has anybody heard anything from them? ack? Any signs of life?
 * Did hear file complete from admin. asst. in mid-October, nothing since then (11/19)


 * University of Victoria
 * application deadline is 30 Sept 2008
 * request from search chair for reference letters (application instructions just called for contact info for referees)(10-10)
 * preliminary telephone interview (late Oct.)
 * any progress on this search? (11/20)


 * University of Virginia
 * application deadline is 15 Nov 2008
 * search suspended

U.S. Twentieth Century

 * Brandeis University
 * Location: Waltham, MA
 * application deadline is 15 Oct 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $74,600
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $67,671 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 8:1
 * median SAT score: 1335 to 1370
 * AHA page notes search suspended


 * Brigham Young University
 * Location: Provo, UT
 * application deadline is 15 Sept 2008
 * student/faculty ratio - 21:1
 * median SAT score: 1235 to 1240


 * Cornell University
 * Location: Ithaca, NY
 * application deadline is 8 Oct 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $89,800
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $81,459 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 9:1
 * median SAT score: 1335 to 1395
 * the description for this position was so vague - anybody know what they are really looking for?
 * my advisor told me they are telling faculty they're interested in gender historians (???- so not what I would have expected from the ad. I'm wondering if *they* know what they want...)
 * received ack via mail (10/13)
 * rec'd ack and aa survey (10/17)
 * received ack and aa survey (10/18)
 * received request for writing samples, teaching materials, and publications (10/24) x 3
 * since the deadline was quite early, anyone know what is going on/why Cornell seems to be going so slowly?
 * I'm under the impression that they have a longer than usual short list and a lot of writing, teaching statements, and sample syllabi to get through. Either that, or they already culled a shorter short list I didn't make and am just comforting my delusional self.
 * simply out of curiosity (from someone who obvi did NOT make the short list) did this end up being a gender position? is there any rhyme or reason to the requests for writing samples and teaching materials?
 * I do not work on gender.
 * Nor do I, and I was asked for a writing sample. But not for teaching materials, weirdly enough.
 * I was asked for pretty much everything I've ever written & all my teaching materials. For what it's worth, I do work on gender.


 * CW Post University
 * Location: Brookville, NY
 * application deadline is November 14, 2008


 * Dartmouth College
 * Location: Hanover, NH
 * application deadline is November 1, 2008
 * 20th Century United States History, preference to long civil rights movement, comparative/transnational race, social movements
 * received ack via mail approximating mid-Feb for final decision (11/14)x4
 * received phone ack from dept assistant (called to confirm on 11/12)


 * East Carolina University
 * application deadline is 15 Oct 2008
 * received ack via mail (10/13)
 * rec'd ack via mail (10/25)
 * *anyone heard anything here (beyond ack), e.g., request for materials? (11/8)
 * not a peep (11/22)


 * University of Florida
 * Location: Gainseville, Florida
 * application deadline is postmarked 10 Nov 2008
 * US History since 1920
 * rec'd ack via mail (11/19)
 * rec'd ack via email (11/20)x4


 * Haverford College
 * Location: Haverford, PA
 * application deadline is October 31, 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $67,700
 * student/faculty ratio - 8:1
 * median SAT score: 1290-1490
 * rec'd aa survey and ack via mail (11/3). Spoke with receptionist about items listed as missing in my file. She said they have rec'd hundreds of applications and haven't bex2en able to get all files in order.
 * received ack and aa survey, file complete (11/6) x3
 * received ack and aa survey, missing recommendations (despite sending them 2x!) 11/8


 * High Point University
 * Location: NC
 * application deadline 10.15
 * received ack vial email (10.16)
 * received request for syllabi (11/5)
 * phone interview scheduled (11.6) x2


 * Johns Hopkins University
 * Location: Baltimore, Maryland
 * application deadline is 1 Oct 2008
 * student/faculty ratio - 10:1
 * median SAT score: 1360 to 1395
 * Is this to replace Dorothy Ross or is it a new line?
 * anybody know if this is a replacement or a new position?
 * probably, odd as it sounds, a combo. They've lost most of their young 20th cen (leaving or denied tenure), and Dorothy Ross who was the intell. historian there retired. This sounds a bit like Ross' position.
 * rec'd ack email and link to online aa survey (10/22)
 * * Four finalists invited for on-campus talks (11/07)
 * Great. At least a few of these depts. are moving fwd! Any news on how finalists were contacted, time frame, etc.? (11/07)


 * Loyola Marymount University
 * Location: Los Angeles, California
 * application deadline is 5 Nov 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $66,400
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $60,232 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 13:1
 * median SAT score: 1165
 * Anyone know what they mean by "evidence of teaching diverse groups of students"? Do they just want some sense of the student pop at colleges we've taught at?
 * Re evidence of teaching diverse students: yes, I think they want commentary on your instructional technique with diverse student populations. I asked for clarification and that was my takeaway.
 * received ack email (11/03)


 * Ohio University
 * application deadline is 15 Nov 2008


 * Providence College
 * Location - Providence, RI
 * application deadline is October 22, 2008
 * received acknowledgment letter and request to notify on AHA attendance plans (10/23)
 * received same acknowledgment (11/3)


 * Rutgers University, New Brunswick
 * Location: New Brunswick, NJ
 * application deadline is 30 Nov 2008
 * 20th Century U.S. Political History


 * Salisbury University
 * Location: Salisbury, Maryland
 * application deadline is 15 Nov 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $60,200
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $50,628 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 18:1
 * median SAT score: 1035 to 1115
 * Still conducting searches but has a hiring freeze in place...(all of Maryland, it seems?)
 * It's official! Email from chair announcing cancellation. Formal letters to follow.

I applied and didn't receive anything. Good thing this board exists.


 * San Francisco State University
 * Location: San Francisco, CA
 * application deadline is 1 Nov 2008
 * 20th Century U.S Political
 * the other board says they called for AHA interviews on 11/20
 * I only got my ack via mail w/AffAct survey today stating that they would be in contact mid-Dec re: AHA interviews (11/21) x2


 * Shepherd University
 * Location: Shepherdstown, West Virginia
 * application deadline is 15 Nov 2008
 * student/faculty ratio - 19:1
 * median SAT score: 1005 to 1015
 * will be conducting first-round phone interviews not AHA (11/18)


 * University of Colorado - Boulder
 * Location: Boulder, Colorado
 * application deadline is 1 Dec 2008
 * average salary for assistant professors in 2007-2008 was $72,300
 * assistant professor of history should earn at least $60,824 annually
 * student/faculty ratio - 16:1
 * median SAT score: 1125 to 1170
 * they are requiring that you have your letters of rec uploaded electronically--I emailed the hr people and then the chair of search to see if I could have them sent via mail and was politely but firmly rebuffed. Don't try. Interfolio will do this for you, however.
 * if your recommender is having problems uploading a letter, get in touch with the HR people - jobsatcu@cu.edu - they are exceedingly nice and will accept emails and upload letters from references
 * there has been talk that this search may be suspended due to UC's budget cuts, anyone know about that?
 * According to the other wiki they asked for writing samples as recently as 11/1. I, too, am paranoid that every search will be canceled
 * Nervous here too, have heard UC-Boulder is slashing budgets across the board, but will this search survive?
 * UC-Boulder is not suspending the search, nor were they ever considering suspending it.
 * Writing sample requested recently
 * A friend on the faculty told me that hiring freeze does not extent (at present) to searches already in process


 * University of Massachusetts - Amherst
 * hiring freeze announced by chancellor 10/18**
 * application deadline is 3 Nov 2008


 * called Wednesday and asked if a hiring freeze in place. Departmental assistant said no and they are conducting a job search despite chancellor's announcement(10/22)**
 * rec'd ack via mail (10/25)
 * called dept today (11/10) and administrator said 20th C US search is still on; Af Am history is canceled.
 * received ack (11/17) x 2


 * University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
 * Location: Chapel Hill, North Carolina
 * application deadline is 1 Dec 2008
 * US History, 1930-present day, emphasis on political history
 * Apply online
 * SO easy to apply online//they should all do it this way


 * University of North Carolina, Wilmington
 * Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
 * application deadline is 30 Nov 2008
 * US Political History, 1933-present day
 * Apply online


 * University of Toledo
 * Location: Toledo, Ohio
 * application deadline is 1 Dec 2008
 * US Political History
 * received ack via mail (11/17)


 * University of Wyoming
 * application deadline is October 31, 2008
 * 10/8/08 received ack via email that they will begin reviewing in early November, will conduct telephone interviews in late November, and invite two candidates to campus in January.
 * received same prompt, courteous email ack (10/27/08)
 * writing samples requested (10/27) x3
 * submitted app via email on 10/28--no ack as of 11/7--perhaps too late for consideration? Early bird?
 * That doesn't seem right.. two days ahead of the deadline makes you early bird? Want to send another email making sure the chair received the first?
 * Has anyone heard anything more? I thought they would be setting up phone interviews by now?
 * They requested writing samples from me and I haven't heard anything more.
 * I suspect that this is an inside hire since they have a VAP who fits the ad. Can anyone confirm?
 * Well, that's the rumor on the other wiki but I can't confirm that it's more than a rumor.


 * Weber State University
 * Location: Ogden, UT
 * application deadline is 1 Nov 2008
 * received ack via email with a request for missing materials (11/7) X2


 * Warren Wilson College
 * application deadline is 1 Nov 2008


 * ack letter rec'd (11/10)


 * Williams College
 * Any info/news here?
 * Received ack 11/17 x2
 * 140 apps received. 20 will be passed on to the entire dept in early Dec.

Discussion

 * Is it verboten to put in names and topics of finalists before visits and offers?
 * YES!
 * It is verboten to put names before offers are accepted, and then you should share only the names of the person who got the job (not other finalists).
 * Agreed -- please no names of finalists, unless it's your own and you want to share.


 * Why all the secrecy about finalists? Have we all become Dick Cheney? I don't agree and plan on reporting the name of every finalist for every job I hear about. If its wrong, people can correct it.
 * That's just plain nasty. You have no right to post information about anyone but yourself.  You could seriously damage someone's career with this vindictiveness.
 * It's not secrecy, it's privacy - something Cheney doesn't respect.

Seriously, anyone who thinks the job market is "private" is naive beyond belief. Job talk, for one, are often promoted with undergrads and grad students often invited.
 * Fair enough, but topics or areas could be instructive as to what the search committee was looking for. For example, Hopkins had a fair number of historians of conservatism.
 * If you want to know about the specializations of the finalists for a certain job, just post a query under that job -- at least some of the folks with interviews will probably respond with that information, without getting too specific of course.

Civility and decency are critical to the success of these wikis. Posting personal information, threatening to track down the source of posters, or hijacking the wiki with crazy rants turns off lots of people who have good intelligence. Recall last year, when crazy drama caused the wiki to degenerate and someone to delete the whole thing. I definitely stopped posting information last year because the wiki culture turned creepy. Please, let's all be mellow and reasonable and make this system work for everyone.

-Also, plenty of finalists may be semi-secretly, or at least, below the radar on the market (i.e. leaving one t-t job for another). In those cases there are important professional reasons why secrecy should be maintained, despite many of our desires(my own included) to know who our *competition* is, so to speak.

- Agreed. Some of us could very likely lose our jobs if discovered to be on the market. The wiki should maintain everyone's privacy until the job offer has been accepted.

- what few search chairs/committee members who were willing to post informative tidbits to this wiki would likely be scared away by the prospect of another poster tossing out names.


 * the polisci version of this includes names at all stages, but they actually get jobs.

- I'm sorry, but I don't see how you can have a reasonable expectation of "privacy" when you give a public, advertised job talk on a particular campus.

Complaints/Venting re: history searches: http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/History_2008-2009#Status_of_Job_Searches

OTHER WIKI-http://wikihost.org/wikis/academe/wiki/u.s._north_america_2008-2009